Lafayette College’s Board of Trustees unanimously declared full confidence in college President Nicole Hurd on Jan. 31, two days after the faculty passed a no-confidence motion against her. Hours later, Hurd released her first public statement on the no-confidence vote.
“Our faith in President Hurd and her dedication, energy, and abilities to lead Lafayette College is unwavering,” reads a statement from the board sent in a community-wide email. “She is, in our estimation, best positioned to lead this College in this most extraordinary time.”
The email, signed by Board of Trustees Chairman Bob Sell ‘84, also contained the board’s resolution of support. Sell declined to comment.
Julie Wollman, a professor of practice for the University of Pennsylvania’s Graduate School of Education, said that while it is common for boards to respond to no-confidence motions against presidents with an expression of confidence, a motion or resolution is less common than just a statement of confidence.
“I am humbled by the statement of support by our Board of Trustees,” Hurd wrote in her own statement, also sent in a community-wide email. She went on to highlight the support she said she had received from various college constituencies.
Hurd also wrote that she disagreed with “many of the assertions” made in the faculty no-confidence motion but did not elaborate on or respond to any specific claims. The majority of her statement was dedicated to praising the Lafayette community and expressing her “optimism” for the future.
Hurd did not respond to multiple requests for comment.
The two messages follow the Jan. 28 faculty no-confidence vote, which passed 102-86 with six abstentions. The approved motion, originally proposed by 10 faculty signatories, claimed that Hurd has “harmed the institution of Lafayette College” by sidelining its academic mission and excluding faculty from decision-making.
The motion called on the 35-member Board of Trustees, the college’s ruling body, to “address this leadership crisis.”
In the board’s statement, Sell acknowledged that the faculty spoke “through the College’s system of shared governance.”
“We commit ourselves to work with President Hurd to resolve the impasse and maintain transparency,” he wrote.
Hurd echoed this sentiment in her own statement.
“Despite our disagreements, we share the common bond of caring for Lafayette,” Hurd wrote of the faculty. “I am encouraged that we are formally initiating constructive conversations between faculty, administration, and Trustees.”

Hurd did not provide details on the execution of the “constructive conversations” in her statement. Several faculty members said they had not received further information on this dialogue.
Anthropology & Sociology department head Caroline Lee, one of the motion’s original signatories, wrote in an email that the faculty had exercised its “solemn responsibility to protect the best interests of the college and its students.”
Fellow signatories Women’s, Gender and Sexuality Studies professor Mary Armstrong and anthropology professor William Bissell said that they were not surprised by the board’s decision to express support for Hurd.
“I hope that, behind the scenes, there are going to be productive conversations and moves to see that we’re achieving all that we can be,” Bissell said.
Bissell said that he found it “striking” that the board’s letter of support in Hurd did not attempt to refute any of the claims of the no-confidence motion.
Mathematics professor Justin Corvino, who voted against the no-confidence motion, had a contrasting opinion on the letter, praising it for not trying to counter or be “combative” to the motion while highlighting the positives of the college and acknowledging the rights of the faculty.
“It shows that the board has been listening, but they’re making it loud and clear the path that they wanted to chart, and hope that everyone can work together to get there,” he said of the letter.
Policy studies chair Mark Crain also voted against the no-confidence motion, though he said that he agreed with some of the motion’s rationale. He expressed concern that the removal or undermining of Hurd would have a high monetary cost for the college and emphasized his confidence in the board.
“I think the faculty now appreciates that it’s going forward, and so let’s make the best of it,” Crain said of the college’s future.
When asked about next steps, Lee, Armstrong and Bissell reiterated that the faculty will continue to prioritize academic excellence and active citizenship of the college.
“I hope she can build confidence,” Bissell said of Hurd. “I hope she can regain our trust. But good rhetoric isn’t going to do it. We need concrete and practical sorts of actions.”
The board’s resolution of confidence in Hurd cites Lafayette’s healthy finances, record applications for the incoming class of 2029 and the college’s relationship with the city of Easton as evidence of Hurd’s effective leadership.
The resolution also praises the completion of the campus-wide strategic plan, a plan that the Board of Trustees unanimously approved days after it was narrowly rejected by the faculty.
The Hurd administration’s alleged “disenfranchisement” of the faculty during the strategic planning process was cited as the impetus for the no-confidence motion by Bissell.
This article was originally published on Jan. 31. It was updated on Feb. 7.
Interested Jounalist • Feb 3, 2025 at 11:07 am
For those of you following or participating in this very valuable comments discussion regarding the Board’s decision to uphold Hurd, don’t overlook the related story of the letter to the editor from the former, 2 and 1/2’s of interim service, vice president of communications Peter Mackey, who recently left. In this letter he comments on the interim role he played and the faculty motion of no confidence, and then others comment on his statements. That letter is in this same Jan 31 issue of the Lafayette newspaper.
A Saddened Alum • Feb 3, 2025 at 8:29 am
The very bad publicity that has exploded outside of these pages and has now appeared in FORBES magazine, and will surely spread elsewhere, about our beloved college and the chaos that has erupted between the faculty and administration, was inevitable. It lies directly at the doorstep of the administration and the Board. When the Board needlessly pushed forward in December with passing the Strategic Plan for the College’s future, at the administration’s urging, without the highly desirable sign-on from the faculty that had in fact explicitly rejected it, on what looks like to many of us on very legitimate grounds, the die was cast. The faculty motion of no confidence in this apparently inept administration that followed was something it had not sought. But it was pushed into that corner to best protect the institution that it critically and faithfully serves each day of its lives, and that institution’s future, by finally revealing to the Board all that it knew about had gone wrong on the Hill since Hurd’s accession to the presidency three and a half years earlier. It did not have to turn out this way if the Board had been doing its proper job all along of monitoring and supervising this president and dealing with the serious problems, that have now been revealed to all, of her own creation.
Marcy D'Arcy • Feb 1, 2025 at 10:46 pm
Lafayette is in a downward spiral led by Hurd and the Board. They are wasting millions and millions of ADDITIONAL dollars into a FAILING athletics program to fund scholarships, extravagant coaching salaries, facilities, and equipment.
Athletes are even getting preferential treatment for need-based aid and academic scholarships. Just to lose anyway. 2 championships in 10 years, despite having 230 opportunities across 23 sports each in those 10 years.
Meanwhile academic programs are deteriorating, academic buildings are falling apart, and top applicants that need financial aid are rejected so more athletes can be accepted.
The faculty are the most valuable resource that a school has (not including students) and they have been disrespected over and over again by President Hurd. If you can’t earn the trust of the faculty, you should not be president.
The students don’t like President Hurd either! The only ones that came to support her were athletes. This will tarnish Lafayette’s legacy for decades. Expect a mass exodus of faculty and administrative staff.
concerned_student • Feb 1, 2025 at 3:31 pm
This school is an embarrassment. All the Board is interested is in money. I hope they don’t take this out on the faculty who voted yes.
Laf Alumni '90 • Feb 1, 2025 at 3:03 pm
All I know is that a few faculty that force a No Confidence vote on a President of a fine, reputable and long standing institution with many successful Alumni, students and student athletes have done irrepreprable harm to the Institution they claim to love and protect. These professors should be embarrassed on how they went about this and should resign themselves.
Prouder and Principled Alum • Feb 1, 2025 at 6:02 pm
Please try to understand the simples facts and don’t be so emotional. Read the evidence in the faculty motion. The faculty did not seek this confrontation. The faculty voted down the Strategic Plan in November for good and serious reasons because they as a major stakeholder found issues with parts of it. The president chose to put a stick in their eye and said basically FY. Like “I the president don’t give a damn what the faculty thinks on such an important subject. I’m taking it to the Board anyway. ” This was very disrespectful. The Board foolishly went along with this stick in the eye and drove it deeper in December by approving the Strategic Plan over the faculty’s objection. Rather than delay the vote and reach an accommodation on the few points with the very concerned faculty. This is part of what shared governance is. It would not have been that hard. Then this dishonest characterization from Hurd and Sell together in their report to the board that it was not a rejection by the faculty but a “split vote.” This must have been the last straw for the faculty. And they knew there were serious things wrong in the college’s administration that they decided had gone too far.. The board must have seen it too unless they were blind. A call for them to resign on these uncontroverted facts is absurd. They should be applauded for their candor and bravery, and loyalty to the institution itself..
William L Messick , 68 • Feb 1, 2025 at 2:39 pm
The faculty no vote itemizes over 50 concerns and grievences against President Hurd that boil down to 2 complaints:
1. Hurd has Fundamentally weakened the role of the faculty in the shared governance process.
2. Lafayette faculty are rendered equivalent to groups such as the Student Government, staff, and alumni groups.
I am seeing alot of hyperrbole and noise in the comments from readers, but not alot of logic that the forgoing has affected the Standing of Lafayette College.
Board of Trustees are coreect to support President Hurd.
Paul Young, Pard son, brother and dad • Feb 1, 2025 at 5:15 pm
Note – an entire page of the motion is dedicated to the faculty ad hoc committee on the finances of the college and the possible hiring of Howard Bunsis. The motion suggests Hurd mischaracterizes this committee as an effort by the faculty to increase their pay, without ever really saying why that is a mischaracterization. It is not very hard to google “Howard Bunsis faculty pay”.
There is an issue that the supply of humanities PhD’s outstrips available positions, so they have little pricing power. Bunsis focuses on the ability of the schools to pay.
A Professor • Feb 1, 2025 at 7:31 pm
Hi, Mr. Messick. Your two points capture a lot in the motion of no confidence, but you may underestimate how important they are. The heart of the college is the teaching/learning relationship between the faculty and the students. Everything else, however important, is secondary, so things are indeed out of order if the faculty is reduced to a constituency like those you mentioned. The motion isn’t a “power grab,” but an effort to make sure that the college remains true to its mission.
Southern charm • Feb 1, 2025 at 12:49 pm
Three words for the Board of Trustees: bless your heart.
Higher Ed Ed • Jan 31, 2025 at 10:55 pm
President Hurd gets to keep “leading” Lafayette… into a toxic environment.
Pathetic. She pushed good people out. People who have nothing to gain by speaking out about their experience in her administration considering the board refuses to implement consequences for bad leadership.
The board failed to mention that their previous CIO, an alum who’d been an employee for over 20 years, left (got the h3ll out) in October and she STILL has not appointed an interim CIO—tomorrow is February.
Unless it involves athletics, the only decision this woman makes is no decision.
And can we please stop with the “small group of faculty” argument? The faculty voted against her. The majority, and it wasn’t close either.
Good Point • Feb 1, 2025 at 12:09 pm
Good point. Let’s start from the bottom up. I am unsure what you define as “close”, but 54/46% split feels reasonably close to call it a “split”. Assuming we are defining split as 50/50? As for everything else, maybe the CIO just left, maybe she’s been preoccupied with other challenges, managing a college is quite difficult these days and requires a push and pull that’s incredibly hard to judge. I will leave you with this.
“I hope that either all of us or none of us are judged by the actions of our weakest moments, but rather by the strength we show when and if we’re given a second chance.”
Arnold P • Feb 1, 2025 at 1:03 pm
54% is a landslide vote by any measure. In any event, to call it a “split vote” was deceptive if not an outright lie. From our president and our board. No wonder the faculty erupted. Fatal mistakes in judgment on major issues and management, and just not inadvertent errors, don’t deserve a second chance.
Higher Ed Ed • Feb 1, 2025 at 2:10 pm
EVP Kahr, is that you? You keep responding to comments with bizarre and inapplicable quotes. I absolutely agree that people shouldn’t be judged solely by their weakest moments or mistakes, but she’s an objectively problematic President and I’m sorry that you refuse to see it. I’m not necessarily saying the board should fire her, but I am saying that no one is holding her accountable for leadership failures.
Your 54/46 point is actually irrelevant to my point. The point is that it was a majority, and people keep saying “a small group of activist faculty.” Even if it were reversed and the motion didn’t pass by the same ratio–54/46, that would also demonstrate a lack of confidence by a significant number of faculty. Dismissing that because it wasn’t 60% or something, and continuing to call a clear majority a “small group” is disingenuous.
Regarding the CIO–Hurd was aware he was leaving in September. There is a person at the College who is more than capable of serving in an interim role. if she’s so “preoccupied with other challenges” that she can’t simply NAME an interim for a Vice Presidential position in less than four months, she has absolutely no business being President.
Furthermore, this isn’t a simple mistake–this is a consistent pattern. Mark Eyerly left over two years ago and there still is not a permanent VP of Communications. Not to mention the interim that she “hired” was part time and remote.
It’s hard to take anyone seriously who makes these kinds of excuses for poor leadership.
Good Point • Feb 1, 2025 at 4:24 pm
Good point. Well, here is another.
“Fairy tales do not start, nor do they end, in the dark forest. The son of a gun always pops up smack dab in the middle of the story. But it will all work out. Now it may not work out how you think it will or how you hope it does, but believe me it will work out.”
William Rappolt '67 • Feb 2, 2025 at 6:47 am
According to the Lafayette web site there are approximately 250 full time faculty, so if 102 voted for the motion which means a majority of the faculty did NOT vote for the motion.
All full time faculty are eligible to vote.
Proud alum. • Feb 2, 2025 at 10:25 am
Dumb argument. You should know better. Under your logic Trump did not win because 50, 60 or more millions of voters stayed home. It’s always the majority of people voting in any vote that counts.
Disappointed • Jan 31, 2025 at 8:48 pm
Congrats to the board of trustees for completely selling out!
Not unlike corporate America, all you are concerned about is the bottom line. Without caring to (or even pretending to care) this is a toxic environment full of favoritism created by your sacred presidente. This reminds me of harassment cases when the predator stayed on and was supported by the company because they brought in revenue.
The kids are not okay.
At some point her lack of true leadership will blunder under a national spotlight, publicly embarrassing the school and you won’t be there to blindly catch her.
What a sad day for the Lafayette community, one that at its core values lacks integrity and dignity, as demonstrated by the board.
Great Point • Jan 31, 2025 at 10:31 pm
Great point. Selling out, corporate America, the bottom line. All critically important to how students are meant to feel on a college campus… so nice of you to worry about the students, can’t say the same for the faculty who failed to mention the students with any level of detail in the motion. I will leave you with this…
“I think that you might be so sure a person is one thing, that sometimes you completely miss who they really are.”
Thomas Dempsey, ‘87 • Jan 31, 2025 at 8:36 pm
Great to see whole-hearted Support from the students and the Board.
Dwarfs the split faculty and its abstentions!
Not delusional • Jan 31, 2025 at 9:34 pm
By students do you mean the staged protests by student athletes…? Or the forced vote by student government that has the mandate of only 26% of students?
Thomas Dempsey • Feb 3, 2025 at 5:03 pm
Why not use your name, Ms/Mr/Dr Delusional?
William Rappolt '67 • Jan 31, 2025 at 5:16 pm
Sorry my comment should read 10 mio for Lacrosse
Wiliam Rappolt '67 • Jan 31, 2025 at 5:11 pm
There was a number if unsubstantiated claims made here and in the faculty motion but here is another look..
1.All time record applications 10.528
2. 15% of the class in common classes now Pell eligible reflecting a more diverse pool
3. added 15 new permanent faculty positions
4. increased travel funding for faculty for the first time in decades
5. secured the most bring the roar return in history including a 5 mio dollar gift that creates 1,000 new student slots for internships, study abroad and student faculty research
6. Concluded UNDER BUDGET new Simon Center, adding classrooms in Accopian, an outdoor classroom for Geology, and a new residence hall and begun planing for renovation of Pardee
7. enhanced standing of several rank indices including WSJ, and USNEWS Liberal Arts Ranking
8. begun planing for a launch of a 400 million dollar campaign.
Oh yes raised about 10 million from all private donations for Field Hockey facility serving about 100 students who are excellent students as well!!
That is the truth and it is a strong, verifiable record!!!
Well done, I don’t see where academics are being slighted and ignored!!
Lechau wekink • Jan 31, 2025 at 3:39 pm
It’s difficult not to imagine how much stronger and more cohesive the educational program of the college would be if those few faculty leaders who directed the recent no confidence vote in President Hurd would simply pack up their expertise and dedication to set off in search of other institutions they feel better suits their intellectual and academic aims. Of course this an unideal outcome, to be sure, but what else to suggest given recent news of this intemperate vote?
At this juncture in higher education, with so much at stake for liberal arts institutions (charging upwards of $87,000 per year for tuition) those faculty who feel the college doesn’t reflect their high standards should simply walk away. Take their fight somewhere else.
The Board would be wise to remember there are plenty of talented, un- and under employed Ph.Ds who have graduated since the economic downtown of 2008 who would gladly and confidently take the place of these rancorous professors who clearly don’t enjoy their position on the faculty of the college under the 21st century style leadership of the current President.
Friends of Lafayette • Jan 31, 2025 at 4:30 pm
A step forward for the Lafayette community. Kudos to the Board and to President Hurd for their vision and commitment to moving the needle. And to those disgruntled faculty, I’d suggest putting your egos on the shelf or stepping aside. I’m sure there are plenty of other fine organizations that will appreciate your cliched messaging and personal activism. We are Lafayette!
Ted Ruthizer ‘69 • Jan 31, 2025 at 4:52 pm
So ignorant. Sort of like telling Vietnam War protestors in my day to leave the U.S. if we didn’t like its policies. The faculty who voted in favor of the no confidence resolution represent the highest ideals of the college by wanting to ensure it has the right leadership.
Paul Young, Pard son, brother and dad • Jan 31, 2025 at 5:24 pm
I agree with Lechau Wekink – but I mainly write to point out that “lechau wekink” means …. Lehigh !!!
lechau wekink • Jan 31, 2025 at 7:42 pm
Lechauwekink translates into “where there are forks” the name of the location where the Lehigh River meets the Delaware River, the location where our college first began!
Also, as much as Lafayette Faculty of 1969 responsibly opposed the war in Vietnam, they didn’t seek to vote out Roald Bergethon. Let’s get serious — the current faculty leading this charge against the responsible leadership of President Hurd are not serious people nor the inheritors of the college’s highest ideals.
Concerned alum • Feb 3, 2025 at 8:58 am
Dumb statement. No one said the Lafayette faculty in 1969 was against the Vietnam War, which it wasn’t, or that the administration was for it. So why would the faculty ever make such a motion you reference to get rid of Bergethon. Are you a Lehigh or Lafayette alum? If you went to Lafayette and not Lehigh, you should be able to get your analogies straight.
lechauwekink • Feb 3, 2025 at 12:44 pm
The point is that as tense as politics were in the late 1960s and early 1970s when faculty and students organized a strike in protest of U.S. foreign policy, Lafayette faculty did not go as far as to vote for no confidence in Bergethon. Ted’s analogy to the Vietnam War era here was unhelpful because the no confidence vote is unprecedented. But still, today’s faculty should read more about the campus in the 1960s and learn how it is possible to disagree with the administration and inspire students without causing public damage through no confidence votes.
Paul Young, Pard son, brother and dad • Jan 31, 2025 at 3:28 pm
As the treasurer of an important educational charity, I am often exposed to the interior politics of the academy.
Administrations and boards are generally quite loyal to the mission and reputation of their schools. However faculty members, and particularly non-STEM faculty members, can be more parochial – putting their research and personal politics ahead of the interests of the students, let alone the college as a whole. It would be interesting to see how the faculty voted by department.
In any event, picking between the judgements of the board and those of the faculty, I would go with the board every time.
Marcy D'Arcy • Feb 3, 2025 at 12:26 am
Somehow over 200 years the “parochial” faculty have never voted no confidence in a Lafayette College president. So what changed? Obviously, the problem is Hurd going on a power trip.
Every single VP left under Hurd’s (lack of) leadership. There is an extreme amount of turnover because Hurd cannot be trusted. Nobody wants to work for her.
There is no repairing this relationship. The failed leadership of Hurd has caused the majority of faculty and students to lose respect for her. She can no longer effectively lead this College (not that she ever did). The board should cut ties and move on.
Paul Young, Pard son, brother and dad • Feb 3, 2025 at 11:16 am
I too find the concerns over VP attrition to be alarming. However if that is the main issue then the faculty who wrote the motion were ill-advised to invoke the name of a faculty union organizer – Dr. Bunsis.
There is no escaping the conflict of interest between employees sharing governance and being able to advocate for raising their own pay. If you look at this from a Board perspective, faculty are employees who have, or aim to have, life-long job security via tenure. The rest of the working world faces annual performance reviews to retain their jobs and set their pay.
To make forward progress here, the donor/alum/board/sports crowd will want Dr. Bunsis’ involvement explained.
Concerned for truth alum • Feb 3, 2025 at 3:52 pm
The Youngs create a straw man, infantile and almost McCarthy-like in their attack, and seek an absurd, irrelevant pivot to misdirect the question of the president’s competence to one named individual as an alleged “union organizer” from another institution, a person that no one but the Youngs focus on or care about. Nothing needs to be explained to the audience at large beyond the solid evidence in the four corners of the full faculty report attached to the motion that is largely undisputed.
Allen Haddad • Jan 31, 2025 at 3:15 pm
As Dr. Hurd reminds us, Lafayette is about the power of “AND”.
We can be great scholars and successful athletes.
We can have strong STEM programs and dynamic humanities.
We can embrace the Arts and the Sciences.
We are a great college on The Hill and part of our founding city, Easton.
We have an outstanding faculty and staff and administration and board.
The power of “AND”!
We are Lafayette!
Jan and Allen Haddad ’78
student • Feb 1, 2025 at 3:38 pm
Ok Troy Bolton
President Hurd must go • Jan 31, 2025 at 3:11 pm
A desperate move by a Board that made a mistake in handpicking Hurd after two more professional Presidents and leaders of the institution to save face.
What’s true is there’s no coming back from the comprehensive case the faculty have laid out against President Hurd in their motion.
Good Point • Jan 31, 2025 at 3:38 pm
Good point. What’s true here is she remains the President of Lafayette. I will leave you with this…
Takin’ on a challenge is a lot like ridin’ a horse. If you’re comfortable while you’re doing it, you’re probably doing it wrong
Young Alum • Jan 31, 2025 at 3:01 pm
Of course they did. They want a weak, incompetent figurehead whose only job is to keep a few students and alumni happy, not a leader to run an academic institution. This will definitely help the college retain the best talent and reverse its falling standards.
But hey, at least the rich Alums will get more sports facilities they wanted and overgrown lax bros will have something to celebrate. Then they complain about why so many Alums who weren’t involved in Sports or Greek Life are disengaged from the institution post graduation.
Good Point • Jan 31, 2025 at 3:29 pm
Good point. Please share what your opinion is based on? Falling standards? Many alums, from all walks of life, support this college. Maybe take a look in the mirror, or better yet, reach out to someone if you’re feeling disengaged yourself.
Be curious, not judgmental.
Proud Pard • Jan 31, 2025 at 4:37 pm
“Overgrown Lax bros”? Apparently the “dumb jock” stereotype is still permissable to perpetuate. Be better “Young Alum”.
Wiliam Rappolt'67 • Jan 31, 2025 at 2:51 pm
Outstanding resolution ….well thought out and reasoned
Proud Pard • Jan 31, 2025 at 2:25 pm
Yes! Cooler (more reasonable) heads have prevailed. Keep cookin’ President Hurd!!
Not a proud pard today • Jan 31, 2025 at 3:03 pm
She’s cooking up a whole mess, that’s for sure.
Proud Pard • Jan 31, 2025 at 4:53 pm
No doubt the next few months might be rocky as I expect the aggrieved faculty will go into full “petulant child mode”. In the long term, however, I’m confident today was a great day for Lafayette College.
ARnold P • Jan 31, 2025 at 5:34 pm
The problem with some of these pro-Hurd supporters’ statements is an ignorance of the facts so amply documented in the faculty motion. Its hard to pick a winning horse if you don’t know much about the horse and only react because “she’s great for athletics,” or “I had a nice chat with her two years ago.” There were serious charges of incompetence in running the college. Sure she did some things right, but hollowing out her entire staff she inherited? Good people. And then getting stuck in the interim route for 2 and1/2 years in one major case and 1 and 1/2 years in another. It’s clear people do not like to work with her or for her. There’s been no real head of alumni relations for a year and a half!!! She’s alienated more than half the faculty by her actions over the years and shows no vision of knowing how to deal with them. The Board is equally complicit…they voted to pass the Strategic Plan after the faculty turned it down and then went on to lie about its being rejected by calling it a “split vote.” What disrespect to the faculty to do this rather than sit down and work it out mutually. This is the shared governance the Board talks about? No leadership, and no proper supervision by the Board. How could the Board allow this hollowing out of top positions and this interim thing to go on has long as it had? Its been fully aware. Something is seriously missing up there.
Proud Pard • Feb 1, 2025 at 12:01 pm
That’s all well and good but I think most of the athletes in support of Hurd are of that mind because they have felt marginalized literally for decades. I did when I was there as did all of my teammates. And we’ve felt equally marginalized as alumni. You an hear the condescending tone in the anti Hurd crowd even in these comments. “Just because she supports athletics”, “funds for athletics which could be used for academics”, “over grown Lax bros” are just a few examples. I can’t tell you how many Professors I had teaching me that demonstrated open hostility towards athletes. And this is not an insignificant percentage of the student body. So when you say our depth of knowledge is insufficient to make a proper argument, I would argue that we are reacting to the notion that finally just the basic issue of equality and respect is finally being addressed. I know that’s how I feel.